Panasonic Discharge Potential
The Panasonic NCR 18650GA 3,500mAh cells are know for their enormous 10A (per cell) discharge potential, making them ideal for a high powered off road electric bike. A careful consideration in the design of any electric vehicle systems is the balance of capability between the individual cell, battery pack, BMS (battery management system), controller and motor. The design discharge potential of the cell type should always be higher than the discharge requirement of the pack and the pack should be more capable than the design requirements of the BMS. The discharge capability of the battery and BMS together should then be higher than the requirements placed on the pack by the motor and controller. So when we put together the Hunter with the high current and voltage demands, only the Panasonic high power cells were fit for the task.
Proper stopping power
Most bikes don't regularly hit 50km/h on the flat so it's pretty important to have exceptional stopping power. The Tektro Dorado 180mm hydraulic disk brake system feels as good as motorcycle brakes on the Hunter. The larger diameter disks provide even more leverage to stop the bike when needed. These brakes also have built in switches so when the brakes are used, the controller inhibits power to the motor as an added safety. They won't fade, melt or warp even under the high demands of the Hunter.
The Hunter is designed to look like a bicycle, but feel like a crossover between a bicycle, and an electric motorbike. This bike provides limitless fun, while riding a machine that still resembles a bicycle, not a motorcycle. More finesse goes into the design of product that has performance but is also subtle at the same time. This 'best of both worlds' was the design mantra for the Hunter range and the Hunter Mid Drive is the pinnacle.
|Model (year)||Hunter Mid Drive (2016)|
|Assembly Required||Handlebar alignment, seat and pedals only|
|Main Use||Off road only|
|Cruise Speed||40km/h (24mph)|
|Max Speed||50km/h (31mph)|
|Max Rider Weight||150kg (330lbs)|
|Max Range||50km (31 miles)|
|Average Range||40km (24 miles)|
|Throttle Only Range||25km (16 miles)|
|Pedal Assist Levels||Level 1 to 9, level 0 throttle only|
|Handlebar Display||Dillenger C965|
|Saddle||Velo Plush VL-3057|
|Seatpost||Promax suspension seat post|
|Pedals||VP Alloy, with reflector|
|Front Fork||ZOOM 650DH 26|
|Tyres||CST Small block 2.125 x 26"|
|Spokes||12G Stainless steel|
|Wiring type||EB-BUS waterproof cable set|
|Lights||Spaninga Front light HL2500|
|Frame Material||6061 Aluminium|
|Battery Chemistry||LiMn2O4 Lithium Ion|
|Nominal Battery Voltage||48V|
|Charged Battery Voltage||54V|
|Nominal Battery Energy||417.6Wh|
|Battery Cell Type||18650|
|Cell Spec||Panasonic NCR18650PF 5C|
|Cell Configuration||13S 3P|
|Built in BMS||Yes|
|Other Features||Removable & lockable|
|Maximum Battery Charge Cycles||1,000|
|Battery Charger Type||SANS 48V 2A Smart charger|
|Battery Charge Time||4 hours from empty|
|Brake Type||Tektro Hydraulic disk brake with TR180-17: Ø180 mm rotors ( New Wave )|
|Brake Levers||Tekro Dorado HD-E710|
|Brake Callipers||Tekro Dorado|
|Transmission Type||Shimano Deore 10 Speed|
|Rear Sprocket||Shimano 10 Speed|
|Max Motor Power||1200W|
|Drive Type||Mid Drive|
|Motor Sensors||Hall sensor|
|Controller Operating Voltage||48V|
|Controller Max Voltage||48V|
|Controller Operating Amps||25A|
|Controller Nominal Power Output||750W|
|Controller MOSFET Tubes||9 Mosfet 4110|
|Controller Sensors||Hall sensor|
|Total Weight - No Battery||50.7lbs|
|Length||183cm (72 inches)|
|Width||65cm (26 inches)|
|Height||116cm (46 inches)|
|Frame Size||Medium (one size available)|
|Wheel Base||115cm (45 inches)|
|Ground to Max Seat Height||102cm (40 inches)|
|Ground to Lowest Seat Height||88cm (35 inches)|
Whats in the Box?
Customer Reviews (5)
- I recommend the Hunter Off RoadReview by Mehraan
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- Unbelievable Performance!Review by Pete
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Get one. (Posted on 2/16/2016)
- top bikeReview by Dereck
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- Forget the rest, make this your first eBike!Review by Wombat
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The Good: It came delivered to my door 4 business days after I ordered it online ... not too shabby as it had to come half way across the country (from Dillinger HQ to Adelaide, SA).
It was well boxed and packaged, ensuring it made it to me in pristine condition.
I only had to put on the front wheel and pedals, which was very do-able, even given my own lack of DIY skills. (It was about on par with putting together stuff I recently bought from IKEA).
Visually it is quite stunning, it looks sleek and modern, with clean lines, nice paintwork, great colour scheme (black with red and white detailing), and a clean finish.
I can't fault the componentry much. It is mostly mid/high end accessories and parts that match well with the price (especially now that it is around $400 cheaper than when I purchased it a few weeks ago, ouch!).
Currently I get about 20-30km (round trip range) using a combination of power levels (from lowest, 1 to highest, 9) depending on the headwind, ground surface, hilliness and how fast I want to go. I'm pretty sure I could extend this to the suggested 40km if I used only power level 1 or 2, with pedal assist, but I bought this bike for speed, so typically I'm in the power level 3 through 8 range. :)
Power level 9 with pedal assist is outrageously easy and fast.
The battery charger is pretty much as stated with 4 hrs to fully charge.
The Bad: I've only had it for a couple of weeks but have had to replace both my front and rear wheels (tubes) due to flats. Normally I'd be averaging one flat every 6 months on my other bikes.
The first flat was on the rear wheel and it happened on the first day of riding. The puncture was directly over where the tube sits on the wheel, and I noted the following (a) there was no 'rim tape' to protect the tube from the wheel, (b) the tube had an actual inflated internal diameter of approx. 22 1/2" to 23" (even though it said it had a 26" diameter) and was only 1 1/8 " wide.
The second flat occurred about a week later on the front wheel. The puncture was more traditional, in that it was on the side of the tube where the wheel makes contact with the ground, suggesting a sharp object on the ground pierced the wheel and tube. (However it was a little off to one side so a pinch puncture isn't necessarily out of the question. See note below).
Noteworthy was the fact that the front wheel also had no 'rim tape', and the dimensions of the front tube were way different to that of the rear tube even though both wheels are identical (front tube measured an actual 26" (internal diameter) and 2 1/8" (at the rim)).
I'm not sure why the tubes were so different, or why there was no rim tape, a simple fix of adding rim tape and maybe puncture proof tubes that fit the wheel exactly would be a good easy fix. :)
The suggested tyre pressure is 40 psi (as indicated on the tyre rim). I've discussed this with some experienced bikers and they expressed concern that it might be a little low and could cause 'pinching' punctures on the rim when going over harder objects at speed. This was more my concern for the puncture on the front wheel, however that is only a theory, and as I've already said, it could also have been a piercing puncture. However I will keep an eye out for more punctures in the future and hope that my addition of rim tape and puncture resistant tubes will stop any further flat tyres from occurring.
There was no documentation in the box on how to set up or use my Bafang handle bar display. While riding I have no read out of speed or other information that I would expect to see on an eBike. I have to 'tap' my brakes to for the display to show me what power level (1-9) the motor is currently set at and to see how much battery charge is remaining (indicated as either 1-5 bars of power remaining). I suspect it's a problem with the cadence sensor but I do not have the technical savvy to fix it without some help from Dillinger, which brings me to my next point.
I have phoned Dillinger twice (separate days) and was greeted with an answering machine on both occasions. I left a message asking them to get back to me and was hoping this could be done within 24 hours but alas this was not the case. So the after sales service is a little disappointing at the moment. :(
Unknown: It is still early days for me riding this bike, and the only unknown for me is battery life! All indicators suggest that keeping it 'almost' topped up, by recharging once a month and traveling down the street and back a couple of times (say 2kms-ish) is the best way to get the maximum number of recharges and performance out of this battery.
Summary: I really like this bike. It is fast, real fast. I feel the Hunter is priced well for a 750W mid-drive off-road bike. My friends have all tried it and they have been impressed with it also. After sales service hasn't been great in terms of answering their phones, and I still don't know exactly how fast I'm going, but I don't need to, I ride by feel not by the speedometer. A little attention to the tyre/tube issues and adding rim tape to the wheel would be advantageous for getting good reviews. :) Having said all that, I would highly recommend buying this bike if you can afford it. :) (Posted on 10/8/2015)
- (2015 Model) Hunter 750W OffroadReview by Neil
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